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Post  Seekeress@0 Wed May 30, 2012 3:08 am

Assalamu Alaikum wa rahmatULLAHI wa barakatuHU wa maghfiratuHU dear all,
With this thread, I hereby volunteer to provide answers to the exercises given in the Arabic Tutor series. However, this goes without saying that my answers would need peer reviews from those of us self-learners who are relatively at an advanced level at learning this wonderful language we all are in love with and have gathered here to appreciate and enjoy. If there are any questions related to any specific issues from anywhere in the book, you all are welcomed to pose them too.


JazakumULLAH Khair,
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Post  maazrah Wed May 30, 2012 8:57 am

I'm interested in this also, inshallah.

So how should we start?

A question though, the english to arabic can have multiple answers, should one try to stick as closely to the vocab list in arabic tutor as possible?

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Post  Sunni_Student786 Wed May 30, 2012 11:48 am

maazrah wrote:...
A question though, the english to arabic can have multiple answers, should one try to stick as closely to the vocab list in arabic tutor as possible?

You bring up an excellent point. Given this, I think that for the time being we should limit ourselves to the Arabic to English exercises until we figure out what to do about the other exercises.

What do you guys think?

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Post  naznutty Thu May 31, 2012 7:27 am

Sunni_Student786 wrote:
maazrah wrote:...
A question though, the english to arabic can have multiple answers, should one try to stick as closely to the vocab list in arabic tutor as possible?

You bring up an excellent point. Given this, I think that for the time being we should limit ourselves to the Arabic to English exercises until we figure out what to do about the other exercises.

What do you guys think?

Guys for the excercise which require translation of english to arabic i have an udru answer book..which i can cross reference...although i dnt no any udru i brought these books as recommendation from others cos the english to arabic translantion would be in arabic and it would be the same in whatever language....I intend to do these arabic tutor books once ive gone thorugh the madina books...

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Post  Naba Thu May 31, 2012 12:44 pm

I brought 'arbi ka muallim' book,urdu-Arabic.I have already solved exercise no 1.Can anybody cross check my answer? I will post my answer.I don't have a habit of typing in urdu or arabic language.It is very time consuming?what should I do?

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Post  Seekeress@0 Thu May 31, 2012 4:06 pm

Naba wrote:I brought 'arbi ka muallim' book,urdu-Arabic.I have already solved exercise no 1.Can anybody cross check my answer? I will post my answer.I don't have a habit of typing in urdu or arabic language.It is very time consuming?what should I do?


Can you type them in Roman English? Like for example, if you wish to write

رجل

then you may write it as "rajulun"... Yes, it will take a lot of time but it is worth the effort.

May Allah Ta'ala Make it easy for you and accept all our endeavours geared towards seeking Hm and Him Alone, however insignificant and mundane they may be or appear to be so! Aameen thumma Aameen.



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Post  Naba Fri Jun 01, 2012 7:59 am

exerciser no:1
Questions
arbi me tarjuma karo:
Answers
1)koi ek ghoda
farsun
2)koi ek aadmi
rajulun
3)ek mard aur ek ghoda
rajulun wa farsun
4)kuch roti aur kuch pani
khubzun wa maaun

5)ek aadmi aur ek phal aur ek ghar
rajulun wa samrun wa makanun
6)nama aur aalim
salatun wa alimun

7)nek ya bad
saluhun aw fasikun
8)aadmi ya ghoda
rajulun aw farsun
9)dhood aur roti
labanun wa khgubzun
10)ek insan aur ek ghoda
insanun wa farsun
11)badsurat aur khbsurat
qabihun wa hasanun
12)ek billa aur ek ladka
harun wa walidun
13)chand aur suraj
shamsun wa qamarun
14)oont ya ghoda
--- wa farsun


SAWALAT Number 1:
5)alfaze zel me ism f'al aur hurf ki tameez karo:
Ism: hua,yadun,alfarsu,samaun
fel: zaraba,yzhabu,
hurf: min,ila
8)zel ki ismo me muarifa aur nukra pehchano:
nukrah:zaidun,baladun,rajulun,nahnu,hasanun,qabihun,haza
marifa:makka,attaiyib,alfarsu

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Post  Seekeress@0 Sun Jun 03, 2012 2:37 pm

Assalamu Alaikum wa rahmatULLAHI wa barakatuHU wa maghfiratuHU dear sister,
First things first. Please accept my heartfelt apology for getting back to you late and postponing my response to your answers.
Secondly, your answers to 1-13 are correct.
14 ) oont ya ghoda jamalun aw farasun

8 ) nahnu and haaza are maarifah and not nakirah, because nahnu is dhameer ( pronoun ) and haaza is ism-ishaara (demonstrative pronoun).


I hope this benefits you, inshaAllah!

JazakumULLAH Khair,
Wassalam ma'al-ikram

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Post  Naba Mon Jun 04, 2012 5:52 am

Jazakallah sister
=8 ) nahnu and haaza are maarifah and not nakirah, because nahnu is dhameer ( pronoun ) and haaza is ism-ishaara (demonstrative pronoun).
but as per defination of maarifa ,ism maarifa is used for important unique thing or place or name.
Nahnu=I
haza=this.
This is not specifying any important thing?didn't understood.
Can I post next exercise ?I am free for few days.I want to finish it fast.

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Post  Seekeress@0 Mon Jun 04, 2012 1:03 pm

Aameen wa iyyak, dear sister,
Yes, you may post your answers to the next exercise.

As for your questions,
Nahnu means "we dual/plural". That is, when used in a sentence, it refers to either of the following:
a) we two men,
b) we two women,
c) we many(more than two) men,
d) we many women.

And a person or a group of people knows themselves best, more than anybody else on the face of the earth, right? And maarifah literally means a place of identification/knowledge, in urdu, it would be something like "jaan pehchaan ki jaga" And for a man, the place about which he knows the most is himself. There is a specific term for this and that is, "aariful maarif" (most known of the knowns). For this reason, nahnu is maarifah because it refers to a group of people, two or more, men or women, telling us something about themselves. At this point, I would like to add that we should not conflate the grammatical terms used in Arabic Language with their apparent counterparts in English Language. What is "proper noun" in English Language is only one element or juz of what is maarifah in Arabic Language.

Haaza refers to a specific thing located at a specific position in one's vicinity and that makes it maarifah.

wALLAHU A'ALAM
I hope this answered your question.

JazakILLAH Khair,
Wassalam ma'al-ikram


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Post  Naba Tue Jun 05, 2012 3:09 am

jazakallah for explanation......
I will write daily two three words in arabic ,slowly I will increase my speed in arabic keyboard.
MASHQ NUMBER 2:

urdu me tarjuma karo:
1)اَللهُ الْعَضِيْمُ
allah azeem hai.
2)اَلْرّسُوْلُ الْكَرِيْمُ
rasool (saw) kareem hain.
3)qasrun azeemun
ek haveeli shandar.
4)albaitus sageeru
ghar chota hai
5)bustanun nazeefun
ek baag saf suthra
6)tamrun huluwun
kuch khajoor meetha
7)attamrul huluwu
khajooe meetha hai.
8)malikun salihun
koi ek badsha nek
9)albahrul malihu
samudar khara hai.
10)shaiun tayyibun
kuch cheez achchi.
11)arrajulun tayyibun
koi ek achcha aadmi
12)muhammadinirrsulu
Muhammed(saw) rasul hain.
14)zanbun azeemun
ek gunah azeem(bada).
14)rajulun qabeehun
ek aadmi badsurat
15)aljubnu radiyyu
??.ye kya hai?(paneer nikamma hai?) Sad
16)khubrun jayyidun wa tamrun hjuluwun
kuch roti umda aur kuch khajoor meetha
17)arrajulus-salihu walmaliku-alkareemu
aadi nek hai aur badsha buzrug hai.
18)tuffahun ahmaru
ek seb surkh
19)bateekhu huluwu
tarbooza meetha hai
20)alwardu-al-ahmaru
gulab surkh hai.
21)rabbun gafoorun
ek rab gafoor.

sister I am using this keyboard.I cant put link of keyboard ,showing error ,new member are not allowed to post links.
I am not getting where is double damma key?


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Post  Sunni_Student786 Tue Jun 05, 2012 4:02 pm

Beautiful progress being made thus far. Insha'allah I'll make some contributions soon too. Hope others get involved as well (insha'allah).

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Post  Naba Wed Jun 06, 2012 7:44 am

No replies ?
Mashq no 2:
Arbi me tarjuma karo.
Mazboot makan
Makanun mashidun
chota ghar
baitun sageerun
Ek khoobsurart phool
Don't know
bad surat mard
rajulun qabihun
chaoda rasta
shariun areezun
koi ek nek mard
rajlun salihun
meetha dhood
labnun huluwun
insag karne wala badsha
malkun adilun
shandar mahel
qasrun azeemun
aasan sabaq
darsun sahlun
Ek khoobsurat ghoda
farsun hasanun
ek meetha phal
samrun huluwun
choti jagha
mahalun sagirun
umda ghoda
farsun jayyidun
kashada ghar
baitun wasiun
umda roti ya achcha doodh
khubzun jayyidun aw labnun tayiibun
ek nek ladka aur ek badkar ladka
waladun salihun wa waladun fasiqun
badi masjid aur ek chota baag
majidun azeemun wa bustanun sageerun.



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Post  Seekeress@0 Wed Jun 06, 2012 4:00 pm

Assalamu Alaikum wa rahmatULLAHI wa barakatuHU wa maghfiratuHU sister,

Lesson 2 deals with the murakkab-e-tawseefi which does not form a complete sentence; it is a phrase.
Exercise 2:-

1) Buzurgi/Shaan/Barai waala Allah

2) Sakhi Rasool (SallAllahu alayhi wa sallam)

4) chhota ghar

7) meethi khajoor

9) namkeen/khaara samandar

11) It is a maarifah compound and there is a general rule that a word preceded by an alif-laam does not get tanween on its last letter. Thus it will be translated as : acha aadmi

12) Rasool Muhammad (SallAllahu alayhi wa Sallam)

13) You missed out number 13. The answer is: Bakhashnay waala Rab

Your 15 and the book's 16) Radi refers to anything that has been rendered useless or trash. So in case of paneer, you could say : kharaab paneer

Your 16) and the book's 17) aik achi/umda roti aur aik meetha khajoor

Your 17) and the book's 18) naik mard aur sakhi/buzurg baadshah

Your 18) and the book's 19) aik laal saib

Your 19) and the book's 20) meetha tarbooz

Your 20) and the book's 21) Laal gulaab

" While translating a murakkab-e-tawseefi, the sifat precedes the mawsoof.
* The words with tanween on them are generally translated as " aik....."
* Since you are doing your exercises in Urdu, you can translate the maarifah words without a suitable Urdu counterpart for the English article "the" which implies specificity.

And Allah Ta'ala Knows Best.

JazakILLAH Khair,
Wassalam ma'al-ikram










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Post  Seekeress@0 Wed Jun 06, 2012 4:18 pm

Dear Naba,
I referred to the Kaleed/Key of the Arabic Tutor and there I noticed that the honourable author has not translated the "al-" part of a maarifah word with any particular word. For example, he has translated " Albateekhul-hulwu" as "meetha tarbooz".
Given this, I think you should re-do your exercise 2's part 2 ( the one from Urdu to Arabic ) adding the "al-s" to the answers to questions on maarifah words. I am only suggesting you re-do it so as to make sure that you have understood the concept and that you remember it all along. If you think there is no such need, then that is fine too.

I hope my above-mentioned suggestion does not offend you.


And Naba, could you please do me a favour? Could you please submit your answers to all the next exercises in separate posts? That way, it will become easier for the other users to locate the answers and their explanations if there are any at all. This is a humble request. I hope you will comply.

JazakumULLAH Khair,
Wassalam ma'al-ikram

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Post  Naba Thu Jun 07, 2012 4:31 am

Seekeress@0 wrote:

And Naba, could you please do me a favour? Could you please submit your answers to all the next exercises in separate posts? That way, it will become easier for the other users to locate the answers and their explanations if there are any at all. This is a humble request. I hope you will comply.

JazakumULLAH Khair,
Wassalam ma'al-ikram
sorry I didn't understood your point.I am writing all the exercises in separate post.

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Post  Naba Thu Jun 07, 2012 4:42 am

arbi me tarjuma karo:
Mazboot makan
Al-Makanu mashidu
chota ghar
Al-baitu sageeru

Ek khoobsurart phool Don't know

bad surat mard
Al-rajulu qabihu

chaoda rasta
As-shariu areezu

koi ek nek mard
rajlun salihun

meetha dhood
al-labnu huluwu

insaf karne wala badsha
al-malku adilu

shandar mahel
al-qasru azeemu

aasan sabaq
ad-darsu sahlu

Ek khoobsurat ghoda
farsun hasanun

ek meetha phal
samrun huluwun

choti jagha
al-mahalu sagiru

umda ghoda
al-farsu jayyidu

kashada ghar
al-baitu wasiyyiu

umda roti ya achcha doodh
al-khubzu jayyidu aw al-labnu tayiibu

ek nek ladka aur ek badkar ladka
waladun salihun wa waladun fasiqun

badi masjid aur ek chota baag
al-majidu azeemu wa al-bustanu sageeru.

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Post  Naba Thu Jun 07, 2012 4:51 am

Seekeress@0 wrote:Dear Naba,
I referred to the Kaleed/Key of the Arabic Tutor and there I noticed that the honourable author has not translated the "al-" part of a maarifah word with any particular word. For example, he has translated " Albateekhul-hulwu" as "meetha tarbooz".
Given this, I think you should re-do your exercise 2's part 2 ( the one from Urdu to Arabic ) adding the "al-s" to the answers to questions on maarifah words. I am only suggesting you re-do it so as to make sure that you have understood the concept and that you remember it all along. I
JazakumULLAH Khair,
Wassalam ma'al-ikram
Yes I referred to almadina book and this is explained in that book,but in arbic ka muallim book it is given in this way.That's why I wrote like that.

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Post  Sunni_Student786 Thu Jun 07, 2012 3:37 pm

MASHALLAH you guys!

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Post  Seekeress@0 Thu Jun 07, 2012 4:02 pm

Naba wrote:
Seekeress@0 wrote:

And Naba, could you please do me a favour? Could you please submit your answers to all the next exercises in separate posts? That way, it will become easier for the other users to locate the answers and their explanations if there are any at all. This is a humble request. I hope you will comply.

JazakumULLAH Khair,
Wassalam ma'al-ikram
sorry I didn't understood your point.I am writing all the exercises in separate post.


I am sorry I did not quite get the point across. I meant, if you could submit your answers to all the next exercises as separate threads with new topics. There is a tab called "NEW TOPIC" on your down-left side. Click on it and a new message window opens where you can type in all your answers and then give it the title of your exercise number, say, Mashq 2 a, Mashq 2 b, etc.

I hope I have made myself clear now.

JazakumULLAH Khair,
Wassalam ma'al-ikram

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Post  Seekeress@0 Thu Jun 07, 2012 4:27 pm

Assalamu Alaikum wa rahmatULLAHI wa barakatuHU wa maghfiratuHU dear Naba,

I hope this finds you in the best of health and spirits, inshaAllah!
The correct answers are as follows:

1) Al-makaan-ul-mashidu
2) Al-bait-us-sagheeru
3) zahratun jameelatun
4) Al-rajul-ul-qabeehu
5) Ash-shaari'-ul-'areezu
6) Al-laban-ul-hulwu
7) Al-malik-ul-aadilu
Cool Al-qasr-ul-azeemu
9) Ad-dars-us-sahalu
12) Al-mahall-us-sagheeru
13) Al-faras-ul-jayyidu
14) Al-bayt-ul-wasee'u
15) [Written: Al-khubz-ul-jayyidu aw al-laban-ut-tayyibu],
[Pronounced as : Al-khubz-ul-jayyidu av-il-laban-ut-tayyibu}
17) Al-masjid-ul-azeemu wa-l-bustaan-us-sagheeru

And Allah Ta'ala Knows Best!

JazakumULLAH Khair,
Wassalam ma'al-ikram

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Post  Naba Fri Jun 08, 2012 2:44 am

Jazakallah I understood your point.Inshaallah I will post with new topics.
Also ,Could you please do me a favor ,when I will finish up with mashq 4,make a small test paper for me ,so that I am able to judge my self how much I have remeber.I will write answers here please check my answers.
jazakallah ....

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